Hi I am not sure whether I am aloud to post my game. I have uploaded it but it contains midi files off existing games .Not ones I have ripped obviously because I dont know how. Lol, Anyway I got them off VG music. Its a work in progress and hope to have my own origional soundtrack for the finished game. Am I still aloud to post it? Should I state what games they are from and what site I got them off?

I hope I dont get my game removed because I spent ages getting it good and it would be really boring without the music. Please could someone enlighten me?

If you have permission to use what you don't own, then you can post it here. I think.

Read the terms of service. I did (well, I skimmed them), and unless I missed something, then I'm right.

Games on the GMC often have music from other games inside, but when it comes to YoYo games, I am seriously unsure. If it is not allowed, then there will be a serious setback for the games I am making as well. And I don't want that.

If you don't want that then why are you using assets in your game that you don't have the rights to? :S

I am no music composer. What am I supposed to do. Silent games have never really impressed me. Apart from the music I own everything else in the game.

QuoteI am no music composer. What am I supposed to do.
Getting someone to do the music for you.
Really, finding a composer is more easy than finding a graphics artist.

I guess, so absolubetly no games including music of vgmusic are allowed?

I think there’s a respectful way to use resources from others games without problems.

I’ve upload my game Super Marionoid which features sprites and music from the original Super Mario Bros. I give all the credits that Nintendo deserve in my “READ ME” files include in the game when you press F1. Also even when you click on the properties of the exe file it also gives all the credits to Nintendo for sprites and music. You can also find the mention of “Tribute game” or “Freeware” which is also important if you use resources from others.

Here what I’ve write:

READ ME:

Note: This game is a freeware. Do not use for any commercial purpose.

All sprites and music are taken from Super Mario Bros. Super Mario Bros game and characters are property of Nintendo. TM. All rights reserved.

The game engine and design are developed by Splatter house Studios 2007. All Right reserved.


This way it show clearly that the game is a tribute and a freeware and not for any commercial use. Credits and right are given to the author/company from where the resources belong. I think every clone games should have something like this include in the game.

Would be pretty stupid if they didn't allow games with music from vgmusic.com, since they link to the site in their own resources page:
http://www.yoyogames.com/make/resources/

QuoteWould be pretty stupid if they didn't allow games with music from vgmusic.com,
since they link to the site in their own resources page.
It's still your responsibility to obey copyright rules.
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In the past, I requested permission to use a copyrighted MIDI file and I was given permission. I explained to the author it was for a game I was making as a hobby and that I would post it on an amateur game making forum. He said it was fine, and "thanks for asking".
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So you should just ask the author. You might be surprised how many midi and sprite authors are happy to let you use their work. So just ask. If they say no, then find another one.

Ripping sprites in any shape way or form would be considered Copyright infringement regardless if you include a text file saying they are Copyrighted by another company. They still belong to the original publisher, and I don't think they intended for there property to be used in other compiled works.

This I'm pretty sure of.

While it may be illegal, have there been any law suits against Jimmy Joe and his pac man rip off.

And what's going to happen to all of the Mario Clones already on Yoyo, they surely can't all be legal now can they?

QuoteWhile it may be illegal, have there been any law suits against Jimmy Joe and his pac man rip off?
Probably not. But we should make our decisions in life based on what's right and wrong -- not just on the threat of getting caught.
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QuoteAnd what's going to happen to all of the Mario Clones already on Yoyo, they
surely can't all be legal now can they?
It's not realistic for YYG to act as the "copyright police". There's no practical way to examine each submission for copyrighted material.
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But if the copyright owner complains, I'm confident YYG would remove that game immediately. There might even be repercussions for the person who uploaded it. Not sure.

QuoteBut if the copyright owner complains, I'm confident YYG would remove that game
immediately. There might even be repercussions for the person who uploaded it.
Not sure.


Thats not really fair to him though, he never chose to upload the game onto Yoyo, they did it for him, and correct me if I'm wrong but all versions of GM6.1 and below never came with the legal restrictions did they?

Can I have some of what you are smoking? The um, ignorance to the law drug or whatever?


Have you even skimmed their EULA? The whole thing is aobut how the game is YOUR responsibility and how it is NOT THEIR FAULT if you get in trouble with it. It doesn't matter what GM6.1 legal restriction's were (And frankly I have no idea what you're talking about) but it's still definitely illegal.


It's completely fair to him. He wanted it on the site.


Sure, the big companies might not notice the mario clones but if they do there could be severe legal reprecussions. All the Mario clones on the site completely violate international copyright law.


You guys need to assume using ANY resource which you did not make is ILLEGAL unless you get legal permission to use it. No matter how many credits or thanks you give them. This even applies to your sprite artists (I've seen cases where an artist for a game or company sued the company and won)

QuoteReally, finding a composer is more easy than finding a graphics artist.

Yeah, but finding a Good Music composer is next to impossible.

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^^ The GM 6.1 Licensing aggreement. Not once does it say "Do not use copyrighted material"
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Yes it may be illegal I never said it wasn't. But he never wanted his game on here, it was transferred from the Game Maker Showcase and frankly, you can't be someone for something they had no control over

QuoteThe GM 6.1 Licensing aggreement. Not once does it say "Do not use copyrighted material"
It doesn't say "don't drink and drive" either. But that's still illegal. lol...

Copyright violations are illegal because other laws say so -- not because of a game EULA.
QuoteBut he never wanted his game on here, it was transferred from the Game Maker Showcase and frankly, you can't blame someone for something they had no control over.
Nobody's going to sue him, so let's all relax. But if the copyright owner complains about it, then YYG has every right to remove that game. It doesn't matter who put it there.

If I use my original graphic and music that I'm making,can I sell that games?

QuoteIf I use my original graphic and music that I'm making,can I sell that games?
All resources (even sound effects) have to be yours, or they have to be royalty-free even for commercial games. But we don't make the conditions - the people that create the resources do.

Even without posting it on YoYo games, it's been illegal to use copyrighted graphics and sounds. Sure, you're unlikely to recieve a lawsuit, but Mark and Sandy could be sued for profiting off these illegal games (a major point of this website is to advertise GM7). In the GMC, it's not as big of a deal, because you're hosting it elsewhere, and you have to admit it's an entirely different atmosphere. This is like YouTube for games, (for which, by the way, the barrage of lawsuits is just starting), while the GMC is populated entirely by game creators, and also isn't really used as an advertising tool (most people who use the GMC already have GameMaker).

It's unfortunate, but Mark and Sandy have to avoid getting sued.

QuoteEven without posting it on YoYo games, it's been illegal to use copyrighted graphics and sounds. Sure, you're unlikely to recieve a lawsuit, but Mark and Sandy could be sued for profiting off these illegal games (a major point of this website is to advertise GM7). In the GMC, it's not as big of a deal, because you're hosting it elsewhere, and you have to admit it's an entirely different atmosphere. This is like YouTube for games, (for which, by the way, the barrage of lawsuits is just starting), while the GMC is populated entirely by game creators, and also isn't really used as an advertising tool (most people who use the GMC already have GameMaker).

It's unfortunate, but Mark and Sandy have to avoid getting sued.

Thats why a Eula was made for GM7 to protect Mark and Sandy which it does if you read it properly.

I happen to be using VG music myself. For the very same reason(I can't make musics to save my life) Plus I'm editing sprites that'd been ripped...plus it's a fan game.

I think it's ok as long as you don't sell it. Only DON'T USE RUNESCAPE'S STUFF. I've heard they get furious about that, even if its freeware...

OMG! I got banned for like, 3 months because ONE of my stupid brothers thought it would be funny to make a quick new E-Mail address and then create a new account on yoyogames.com. Then to download a whole bunch of games and post them all saying he made them all! The yoyogames staff IP Banned the computer so I was never able to get on until I found a different computer to get on and explain to the staff what happened.

o_0 Dang...